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Woman Fight
Luciano asked:
I found this Youtube´s video clip featuring Mixed
Martial Arts fighter Satoko Shinashi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf9W9luyxHw&mode=related&search=
What do you say for anyone who thinks women cannot fight, or should not be
martial artists?
And how the Morris Method can be usefull to a woman, even if she are not a
Professional MMA Fighter like Ms. Shinashi
Steve's reply:
I think here’s a case where we might be seeing different things. When I
looked at it, even when I saw her walking towards the ring, I straight away
said, ‘it’s a fix.’ And as it developed, it was obvious immediately (to me,
anyway) that the moves had been worked. The moves themselves were great, but
there’s no actual proof that they would work in a real fight because there
was compliance on the part of her opponent.
What you’ll get in these kind of fights, and it happened in Pancrase and
many of the Japanese entertainment fights, is that you’ll get a free
exchange going on, and then they’ll hit a ‘work move’ either for the
entertainment value of it, or as a finishing move to a fight whose outcome
has already been decided. You’ve got to remember that the Japanese fight
entertainment business is controlled by the Yakuza.
Anyway, to deal with your question as a whole, I took a few minutes to pull
down some clips that do show women fighting, at different levels and in
different contexts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWFaUwjIySM&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oju0gn4AjEM&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=&mode=related&v=qcGzoQKVCyI
So obviously, women can fight. Women have competitive minds just like men. I
can remember a woman in Reading where I used to live who used to regularly
take on men outside the pub and win.
Looking at the two sporting clips (and there are many more examples on you
tube if you want to go and look for them) you see women competing as
athletes. Gina Carano is not somebody you’d want to mess with. That’s gold
standard. And if women were training, personally I’d be encouraging them to
aspire to be like that.
But look at the streetfights, too. Because those are the ones you’re more
likely to meet, if you’re not a competitive fighter. And as trainer, I want
to instill that violent mindset and then add the skills on to it. And I
would want to be able to replicate the example of a violent, aggressive
female as an aggressor/dissimilar training partner and as a means of testing
and adapting skills that were being worked in the gym. You need to make your
technique work against that woman. In the ring, it’s obviously different,
but on the street anything goes.
Luciano wrote:
Very well.
In streetfight´s case (not only against another PMT woman, but man, gangs
and another 'monsters'), I teach and encourage my wife and female students
to carry and use some "extra" weapons. Preference by blades and improvised
tools like hair´s needle for example. Of course, the correct mindset and
alert state precede all this stuff...
First I teach to fight with naked hands, so add weapons.
In countries like
So, cold steel abilities can equalize the diference in size and even in
skills.
What are yours advices about this?
Bikergirl wrote:
Sorry to jump in on this but...
Apart from legal issues (in this country you'd be in more trouble for
cutting/stabbing the attacker than the other way around) what do you suggest
to do with these weapons? Do you suggest to actually hold them at the ready?
I've recently watched a programme about crime in
The other question I have is if you actually teach them how to use those
weapons? I have no idea about how to use a knife so I'd be more likely to be
handing them a weapon to use against me.
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And how the Morris Method can be usefull to a woman |
The same way as it's useful to a
man?
I think I better get in here quick and throw my three
pennorth in for what it's worth!
I think the thing is, it rather depends on your environment.
There are obviously incidents where somebody carrying a knife has turned out
that they got killed by their own knife, either because they didn't know how
to use it or they didn't have the will to use it.
One good substitute for a knife might be a metal telescopic baton. Terry
O'Neill showed me one in the 70s and in the right hands it would be highly
effective. One thing you don't have to worry about cutting yourself, which
is a problem with a knife if you're not experienced with one. The baton has
a good natural grip and legally, I don't know but I'd guess it would be more
defensible in court than carrying a butcher knife in your bag!
But again, you'd have to test it out in realistic scenarios. Very realistic.
Against single and multiple attackers, some armed and some unarmed. I think
Nick Hughes carried out an experiment with a stick versus a knife and found
out that the stick (which could be substituted for a baton) was more
effective. I don't know whether that was down to the man or to the weapon,
but I'd say that the baton would be a really effective tool. It's what I'd
carry if I lived in a violent area.
In
I don't want to say more about my personal experience in this department. So
please don't ask!
There's one more thing for now, although I'll probably think of more later.
THe mindset needed to bash somebody with a baton is quite a bit different to
that needed to stab or slash somebody with a knife. It's still violent, but
I think you're more likely to be able to bring yourself to do that than the
other, if you're not normally inclined to be a violent person. The weapon
won't do you any good if you can't bring yourself to use it.
I'll be answering more about knife work and the use of live blades in
practice on another post. Meanwhile, feel free to discuss amongst
yourselves. I'm outta here!
Steve
